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In my opinion 392 J11 is the most phenotypical correct cow in the whole breed.  She has a Presidente embyo calf on the ground now that is the best calf ever born on this ranch.  She is due to calve soon and I will be selling a flush to the bull of your choice early next year.  You cannot miss with this cow and she flushes around 18 good eggs/flush.  Update Lingg Brangus has purchased the young herd sire to breed his new Presidente and Hercules heifers.  He sure has a strong program going there.  Can't wait to see how that works out.